Post by vasudevaram on Sept 15, 2008 6:22:43 GMT
Dear Members
Of all the jewels in the Ramana Crown, the Question & Answer
about the Atma Sphurana lives permanently in my Top Ten.
Here it is, with phrases shown in transliterated Tamil; we’ve shown
the Tamil portions in a brown maroon colour to match up with the
house style of this forum:
I was reading Vichara Sangraha (Self Enquiry). I came
across the statement that something in the heart
naan—naan enRu Spurittuk kondirukkiRatu i.e., something is shining
or sounding as ‘I-I’ in the heart. I have always had doubt what
exactly the word sphurana means. So I asked Bhagavan and
he said, “It means ‘viLangkuvatu’ or ‘viLakkuvatu’
i.e., which shines or illuminates.” I asked, “Is it not a sound we hear?”
Bhagavan said, “Yes, we may say it is a sound we feel or
become aware of”. He also referred to the dictionary and said,
“The word means ‘throbbing’, ‘springing on the memory’,
‘flashing across the mind’. Thus both sound and light may be
implied in the word sphurana. Everything has come from light
and sound.”
I asked Bhagavan what it is that ‘shines’, whether it is
the ego or the Self. He said it was neither the one, nor the
other, but something in between the two, that it is something
which is a combination of the ‘I’ (Self) and the ‘I-thought’
(ego), and that the Self is without even this sphurana.
Explaining how the Self is mere light and how it is both
the word or sound and also that out of which word or sound
originally came, Bhagavan said, “Man has three bodies, the
gross one made of the five elements, the sukshma or subtle
one made of manas and prana, and the jiva. Similarly even
Iswara has three bodies. All the manifested universe is His
gross body, light and sound are His sukshma body, and the
Self His jiva.”
Reference: Day by Day with Bhagavan
24th March, 1945
It’s particularly fascinating to read and study, and meditate along with the thread for Verse 8 of the Supplement:
thedeepforty.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=supp08&action=display&thread=84
Of all the jewels in the Ramana Crown, the Question & Answer
about the Atma Sphurana lives permanently in my Top Ten.
Here it is, with phrases shown in transliterated Tamil; we’ve shown
the Tamil portions in a brown maroon colour to match up with the
house style of this forum:
I was reading Vichara Sangraha (Self Enquiry). I came
across the statement that something in the heart
naan—naan enRu Spurittuk kondirukkiRatu i.e., something is shining
or sounding as ‘I-I’ in the heart. I have always had doubt what
exactly the word sphurana means. So I asked Bhagavan and
he said, “It means ‘viLangkuvatu’ or ‘viLakkuvatu’
i.e., which shines or illuminates.” I asked, “Is it not a sound we hear?”
Bhagavan said, “Yes, we may say it is a sound we feel or
become aware of”. He also referred to the dictionary and said,
“The word means ‘throbbing’, ‘springing on the memory’,
‘flashing across the mind’. Thus both sound and light may be
implied in the word sphurana. Everything has come from light
and sound.”
I asked Bhagavan what it is that ‘shines’, whether it is
the ego or the Self. He said it was neither the one, nor the
other, but something in between the two, that it is something
which is a combination of the ‘I’ (Self) and the ‘I-thought’
(ego), and that the Self is without even this sphurana.
Explaining how the Self is mere light and how it is both
the word or sound and also that out of which word or sound
originally came, Bhagavan said, “Man has three bodies, the
gross one made of the five elements, the sukshma or subtle
one made of manas and prana, and the jiva. Similarly even
Iswara has three bodies. All the manifested universe is His
gross body, light and sound are His sukshma body, and the
Self His jiva.”
Reference: Day by Day with Bhagavan
24th March, 1945
It’s particularly fascinating to read and study, and meditate along with the thread for Verse 8 of the Supplement:
thedeepforty.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=supp08&action=display&thread=84